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perpetual_motion) wrote2004-04-17 01:06 am
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FANNISH RAMBLING: Jonas Quinn: Not the root of all evil in the universe.
Please keep the following things in mind as you read this:
1. I missed chunks of season six because I was either traveling, sleeping, orstudying sleeping.
2. I do not subscribe to any Stargate lists because of the sheer amount of discussion I've found on the ones I've tried. The things I say in this post are pulled from what I found on websites during the time Jonas Quinn wss a regular on Stargate.
Now that we have that covered:
When I saw Daniel die (or ascend, if that's your thing), I cried like a baby. I adored Daniel Jackson for numerous reasons, the biggest being he was a geek who always, always, always stood up for himself and could hold his own. He was the fannish love of my life for a long time.
And then he died.
It sucked.
And I wanted very much to hate Jonas Quinn and have him blown to shit. I had a whole fic idea revolving around it, ask![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
julianlee, I shopped it to her. In short, I think I started out like a lot of loyal fans. I didn't like him. I didn't want to like him, and I wanted Daniel back as of yesterday.
And then...
Something happened. I fell for the boy. Hard. And I started seeing that maybe Jonas was not the worst thing to ever happen to Sci-Fi, or even to SG-1. I started to realize that if I was going to be mad at anyone, I may want to aim at the writers.
Yeah, the writers. And I'm talking both fic and script writers. And here's why.
Script writers:
1. Jonas was supposed to be a geek. He should not have been buff the first time out. Daniel took some time to really buff out (pause for girly fan-squee in regards to the 'Soaking Wet Daniel With Bandana and *Fantastic* Arms'), and having Jonas come in with dimples and cute hair *and* a ripped body was cheating.
2. Making Jonas a genius really just screams 'plot device at three o'clock' to me. He can memorize anything he reads, knows the entire history of SG-1, and is ready to go and be a member of the team almost instantly. This is total cheating, and why I understand why they did it, I never liked them for it.
And why certain fic writers made me mad:
It's one thing here: Charactrization sucked. Either Jonas was the bastard who killed Daniel, or he was some wide-eyed innocent who pranced around and cried and missed home and tried to be charming.
No.
And I repeat:
NO.
Jonas was a guy who could either stay on Earth and carve a new life for himself, or he was a guy who could go home and serve a prison sentence for a massive explosion that wasn't his fault. He stayed on Earth and moved on. He did not murder Daniel, and he didn't cry (At least not that I saw, and not nearly as often as I've seen it written in fic). And he went home to try and make things right all the way around when he got the chance.
So, I give you exhibits A and B, and you can agree or disagree as you please.
Onto exhibit C. Why did I finally fall for Jonas? A couple of reasons:
1. I have a weakness for clean cut boys with dimples and ripped arms. Especially if they're geeks with dimples and ripped arms.
2. He understood his place on the team and was willing to work through everyone's issues with him to at least make it a comfortable working environment. And he wasn't above cheap tricks to get them to see that he wasn't just a weird guy wandering around base. (Anyone else remember his boxing match with Teal'c?)
3. The acceptance by the rest of the team was realistic. It took time for them to warm up to him, they didn't really want him doing much of anything except standing around to start, and when they did finally start accepting him, it was in realistic stages.
4. Jack ended up liking him. If Daniel is my geeky fannish love, Jack is my badass fannish love, and if he approves, I approve.
5. Daniel approved of Jonas. Watch the end of "Fallout" where they shake hands and grin at each other. Daniel has no hard feelings. Neither do I.
So, yes, I like Jonas Quinn. I do not think he's evil. Rebuttal?
1. I missed chunks of season six because I was either traveling, sleeping, or
2. I do not subscribe to any Stargate lists because of the sheer amount of discussion I've found on the ones I've tried. The things I say in this post are pulled from what I found on websites during the time Jonas Quinn wss a regular on Stargate.
Now that we have that covered:
When I saw Daniel die (or ascend, if that's your thing), I cried like a baby. I adored Daniel Jackson for numerous reasons, the biggest being he was a geek who always, always, always stood up for himself and could hold his own. He was the fannish love of my life for a long time.
And then he died.
It sucked.
And I wanted very much to hate Jonas Quinn and have him blown to shit. I had a whole fic idea revolving around it, ask
julianlee, I shopped it to her. In short, I think I started out like a lot of loyal fans. I didn't like him. I didn't want to like him, and I wanted Daniel back as of yesterday.And then...
Something happened. I fell for the boy. Hard. And I started seeing that maybe Jonas was not the worst thing to ever happen to Sci-Fi, or even to SG-1. I started to realize that if I was going to be mad at anyone, I may want to aim at the writers.
Yeah, the writers. And I'm talking both fic and script writers. And here's why.
Script writers:
1. Jonas was supposed to be a geek. He should not have been buff the first time out. Daniel took some time to really buff out (pause for girly fan-squee in regards to the 'Soaking Wet Daniel With Bandana and *Fantastic* Arms'), and having Jonas come in with dimples and cute hair *and* a ripped body was cheating.
2. Making Jonas a genius really just screams 'plot device at three o'clock' to me. He can memorize anything he reads, knows the entire history of SG-1, and is ready to go and be a member of the team almost instantly. This is total cheating, and why I understand why they did it, I never liked them for it.
And why certain fic writers made me mad:
It's one thing here: Charactrization sucked. Either Jonas was the bastard who killed Daniel, or he was some wide-eyed innocent who pranced around and cried and missed home and tried to be charming.
No.
And I repeat:
NO.
Jonas was a guy who could either stay on Earth and carve a new life for himself, or he was a guy who could go home and serve a prison sentence for a massive explosion that wasn't his fault. He stayed on Earth and moved on. He did not murder Daniel, and he didn't cry (At least not that I saw, and not nearly as often as I've seen it written in fic). And he went home to try and make things right all the way around when he got the chance.
So, I give you exhibits A and B, and you can agree or disagree as you please.
Onto exhibit C. Why did I finally fall for Jonas? A couple of reasons:
1. I have a weakness for clean cut boys with dimples and ripped arms. Especially if they're geeks with dimples and ripped arms.
2. He understood his place on the team and was willing to work through everyone's issues with him to at least make it a comfortable working environment. And he wasn't above cheap tricks to get them to see that he wasn't just a weird guy wandering around base. (Anyone else remember his boxing match with Teal'c?)
3. The acceptance by the rest of the team was realistic. It took time for them to warm up to him, they didn't really want him doing much of anything except standing around to start, and when they did finally start accepting him, it was in realistic stages.
4. Jack ended up liking him. If Daniel is my geeky fannish love, Jack is my badass fannish love, and if he approves, I approve.
5. Daniel approved of Jonas. Watch the end of "Fallout" where they shake hands and grin at each other. Daniel has no hard feelings. Neither do I.
So, yes, I like Jonas Quinn. I do not think he's evil. Rebuttal?